In this episode, Dr Louise Newson talks to consultant psychiatrist Dr Sue Varma, joining her from New York, for a grounded but powerful conversation about the realities of mental health. 

Together they explore why so many people, including public figures, shy away from admitting when they’re struggling and how shame can keep anyone from reaching out until things feel overwhelming. They reflect on the particular pressure professionals face to stay composed, the limits of relying on medication alone, and the value of open, unguarded dialogue. 

Throughout the discussion, there’s a gentle reminder that accepting our own challenges, practicing humility and giving ourselves space to process emotions can make seeking help feel far less daunting.

If you are struggling with mental health and are in the UK, you can contact Samaritans 24/7 at 116 123 or visit samaritans.org. If you're outside the UK, please reach out to a local crisis support service or emergency medical help.

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